Gospodin
50 posts
Aug 05, 2006
9:08 AM
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Chris, how about PRC vs ROC, or a flair-up of Croatia vs Serbia. I recently gamed out a scenario of Russia vs Ukraine, involving NATO, which was interesting. We involved a mixed armor battalion for Russian forces, and a company each of US, British, and Ukrainian armor. This was mostly a duke-out with armor, with a light company of mixed US-British armored infantry using mostly AFVs to take on Russian scout and infantry platoons. Ukrainians were using T-72s and older T-80s, the Russians T-80Us and T-90s, the US and Brits their top-shelf armor. We've also gamed PRK vs ROK, with US involvement, of course. Pretty much get our ideas from the newspapers, unfortunately.
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chrisswim
577 posts
Jun 08, 2010
4:22 AM
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If you are around, have a more specific senario idea, perhaps some numbers of vehicles and types, to provide more form? Thank you.
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Steel Arrows
72 posts
Jul 06, 2010
9:38 PM
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Why not a India vs. Pakistan or Peru vs. Chile. For indo/pak things are still hot and both sides still are building up their defense capabilities from nukes to armor. As for Peru and Chile, they too among other south american nations have been buy armor from europe and chins. Peru recent ordered 100+ Type 90-II aka MBT-2000/Al Khalids. All the bells and whisles. Chile now has Leopard 1s and Leopard 2s. About 200+. Soon they will be acquiring German Marder IFVs the are be phased out of German army service. Yeah they suffered an earthquake. But, still buying armor.
PRC vs. ROC Taiwan will be mostly a Naval and air battle due to the standing defense agreements with the US naval forces. I really doubt that China will try to take Taiwan. Its too great of an economical risk due to current political situations. More than likely, China will use economic strength to buy Taiwan istead. Look what they are doing to US economy. Sorry for the political verbatum!
Crotia and Serbia is pretty much in check. Serbia is trying get thier economy running smooth again since the last NATO run thru. NATO will not let that happen again.
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chrisswim
579 posts
Jul 12, 2010
8:54 PM
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Great ideas, like the Chile & Peru. What does Argentina have now? Chile picking up Marders. Has Germany fielded the replacement yet for the Marder, or these older Marders?
For the type 90-II, what model is that?
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Steel Arrows
73 posts
Jul 15, 2010
1:02 PM
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Germany is in the process of replacing the Marder IFV with the Puma IFV.
You Tube Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0D0NtYna6I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbZbdjFIu_o
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chrisswim
580 posts
Jul 17, 2010
5:21 AM
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Thank you for the links. Chile is building up, Peru going w/MBT 2000. So Germany is producing and fielding the Puma.
Guess I'll have Chile attack Argentina or Peru. Also need to get some of the M113C&A for the 25mm gun to put on M113, so they become AIFV vs. APC.
Thank you Steel for the info. Very nice.
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Steel Arrows
74 posts
Jul 18, 2010
1:22 AM
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Chile is to procure YPR765 AIFVs from European sources. Possibility with Turkish version.
Peru would likely get IFVs from China. Type 89 APCs,WZ551 6x6 have been considered. Need to research political situations between Chile and Peru to find a good reason to fight.
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Last Edited on 18-Jul-2010 1:22 AM
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chrisswim
581 posts
Jul 19, 2010
9:32 AM
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Is Chile using Marder, and/YPR765, and the M113/25mm gun?
Thank you for the info, again great links to the pics. I appreciate that.
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Steel Arrows
75 posts
Jul 19, 2010
4:55 PM
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Currently Chile uses M-113 w/ 25mm guns. The YPRs are still in consideration as well as the Marder. Argentina is considering the Marder as well for parts replacement for thier VCTP IFVs a Marder based IFV with the Turret of the German Luchs 8x8 reece vehicle.
For my Argentine armored collection. I use CinC's Marder APC chassis with the Luchs 20mmAC gun turret. Looks great!
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chrisswim
582 posts
Jul 20, 2010
10:26 AM
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Steel,
What have you done with the Marder turrets?
I bet it does look good.
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Steel Arrows
76 posts
Jul 20, 2010
9:35 PM
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I used them on the BTR70s for Ukrainian forces. They modded up the BTR70 for export using the same turret of BTR80A.
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